Is it relatively easy to add videos to a Creative Zen 16GB MP3/Video Player? What formats of video does it support? Does it require a custom media converter (if so, does it work on Windows XP?)? Can you sync videos to it using Windows Media Player?
I want to buy a good mp3 player and I found this really great one, the Zen Mozaic, created by Creative, and I want to know how man songs it can hold because it's a 16 gb
About 3600 songs, using the average of 4.4MB per song.
Ipod's are out of my budget right now and I wanna know if there is any difference in what Id be able to hold if I got a Sansa instead.
It can hold 4000 songs y not get ipod touch 8gb its prolly same price and im writing thru one right now.Ipod nano 4gb is like 129 and 8gb nano is 200 and can play videos as well
Hi. I would like a new mp3 player for x-mas but i dont like using bluetooth. the only sony mp3 player i like that is 16gb is a "bluetooth" player and comes with bluetooth headphones. anybody out there with one of these: can i use normal headphones? thanks.
You can certainly use that player with normal headphones. You can just use it with bluetooth headphones as well. However, if you aren't at all interested in bluetooth, take a look at the Sony NWZ A729. It's pretty much exactly the same player, just without the bluetooth features.
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theirs goin make the sansa view which looks same only shinnier and has 16 gigs for $200 it coming out this november
It has a built in microphone for voice recording.
whats the diffence between Apple® - iPod® touch 16GB* MP3 Player (1st Generation) - Black and the Apple® - iPod® touch 16GB* MP3 Player (2nd Generation) - Black?
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Has anyone got one? Would they recommend it ? Does it play Limewire downloads too?
Yes, it will play limewire downloads.
Read reviews here:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Video-Player-Black/dp/B000VM8EDW/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1203432598&sr=8-1
I have this Creative Zen. I did rip some cds using dBpowerAmp V 12.2 to m4a Nero AAC format(LC and HE). My setting was VBR quality .95, estimated bit rate 400 Kbps(high quality) no forced profile and forced HE AAC both. I did this thinking, if one doen't work then the other one might!!
I used Windows Media Player 11 with Orban AAC-aacPlus to transfer files to my ZEN. I did it successfully(both HE and LC AAC) but eventually when i tried to play it, it displayed "File Not Supported". I can't understand what's happening. I can see both HE and LC AAC files on my ZEN but can't play it. Could any one plz help me out, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I doubt zen plays aac files. It is an ipod/itunes supported format.
If you want an easy way to convert these to mp3 then just download itunes, change the default from aac to mp3 (in itunes go to edit/preferences/advanced/import)
Highlight all the aac songs and then click the advanced tab in itunes and click convert to mp3.
Then have windows media player research your files for those mp3 songs.
Then they should work with your zen.
(you can download itunes at apple.com for free)
Quite a few sites to choose from.
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When moving up from analog storage media and even CDs you have to let go of the old “it can hold X minutes” way of thinking. Digital storage doesn’t concern itself with how long a song is or how many songs there are, because it’s all digital- meaning there’s no ridges in an LP or anything like that, it’s simply stored as ones and zeros. This might be hard to understand, but think of it like a printed photo; it’s not really a single piece of anything, it’s a piece of paper with millions and millions of very small ink dots printed on it, which to human eyes look like a complete, sharp and clear picture. Digital storage works somewhat the same way, it’s all billions upon billions of ones and zeros that are interpreted by a computer, MP3 player or some other kind of electronic device to be a song, a picture, a document, or anything. Digital storage is measured in bytes, like a printed photo could be measured in number of ink dots. Since there are so many “ink dots”, it’s measured most commonly in millions or billions. One MB, or Megabyte, is one million bytes. One GB, Gigabyte, is one billion bytes. MP3 players these days are measured in GB, so that’s the capacity that is always listed in the player specs.
One thing to be aware of is that there are different ways of counting one GB. Manufacturers of MP3 players use 1000 bytes per kilobyte, 1000 kilobytes per megabyte, and 1000 megabytes per gigabyte- a total of exactly 1 billion. Computers however measure it as 1024 bytes per kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes per megabyte, and 1024 megabytes per gigabyte. The reason isn’t important, but this is how it is. This totals to 1073741824 bytes, or 1,07 billion. Since the computer calculates a gigabyte differently than the MP3 player manufacturer, a 1GB mp3 player plugged into a computer will show up as having a capacity of 931MB. For every extra GB of capacity on the player, it will appear to have lost 69MB for no apparent reason. This might not seem like much, but it does mean that a 16GB player will show to have only 14,9GB of storage when plugged into a computer. Since the system of 1024 instead of 1000 is technically the correct one in the computer industry, this is somewhat of a fraud from the manufacturer’s side since they aren’t really that good at informing people about this. A person might buy a 32GB player for their 31GB music collection and find that the player only has 29,8GB of storage. Unfortunately it’s just something you have to live with and be aware of.
BitratesThere are a lot of factors that affect quality of audio files, and I’ve written about this before http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2008/11/audio-format-roundup.php. However, the only thing that affects the size of the files is the bitrate of the music files. Bitrate is put simply the amount of bytes used per second to store the audio. To go back to the photo metaphor, it’s the amount of ink dots used to produce the photos. The more ink dots, the more detailed the photo. Bitrates are always numbers easily divided by 8 (again for reasons that aren’t important). 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 192, 256 and 320 are the most common ones, though anything below 128 is mostly used for speech (audio books, voice recording). These numbers are in bits, not bytes, and 1 byte equals 8 bits. That means that 320kbps (kilobits per second) is the same as 40kBps (kilobytes per second). It’s a bit backwards to use bits instead of bytes, and many manufacturers use the wrong abbreviation for the capacity. In some extreme cases- particularly for Chinese players and other cheap, non-trustworthy manufacturers- they intentionally use bits in the listing of capacity as it will allow them to sell low capacity players as seemingly high capacity ones. Think about it; if you saw a player listed with 16gb priced at $30 it would be a bargain. However, since gb is technically gigabits (capitol B is used for bytes) you’re actually buying a player with 2GB capacity.
MP3 is the most common format, and goes up to 320kbps. Lossless formats and higher capacity formats use higher bitrates, but for the sake of simplicity I’ll concentrate on MP3 bitrates. Other formats and quality issues of various formats are covered in the audio format guide linked to above. There’s also the CBR vs VBR aspect to keep in mind; constant bitrate vs variable bitrate. Variable bitrate basically means that where the music is complex and detailed, higher bitrate is used, while where the music is not so (like where there is silence) it doesn’t use bitrates that high. Back to the photo metaphor, you can think of it like using fewer ink dots to print a clear blue sky than to print a human face, because a human face is much more complex and has more detail. Another way of thinking about it is vacuum packaging instead of big cardboard boxes. Variable bitrate is therefore usually preferred over constant bitrates because it takes up less space (used fewer “ink dots”) while maintaining a higher quality than if you used constant bitrate. Variable bitrate is usually listed with average bitrates. While the amount of difference is a touchy subject for some people, MP3 files are generally considered to sound about the same between 320kbps constant bitrate and 192kbps average bitrate. The latter takes a lot less space because it doesn’t “add details to the sky”.
Many manufacturers claim that 128kbps CBR MP3 is “CD quality”, because it suits them well- low quality used to calculate number of songs means an impressive number of songs the player can hold. In reality, 128kbps is frowned upon by most people- especially when it’s constant bitrate. If you buy tracks from the net, you’ll most likely have either 256kbps CBR or 320kbps VBR files, while bitrates for files from “other places” vary greatly.
How many songs?This might seem like a lot of info to answer something as simple as how many songs an MP3 player can hold, but there’s a reason why people who know their business sigh when that question is asked. Bitrates, as described above, tells you how much space a song will take up per second. Naturally, the total amount of space equals the bitrate times the duration of the song. On a CD, cassette etc the length was the only thing that mattered, but with digital audio it’s the product of the bitrate and the duration. This is another field where manufacturers cheat, often using 3 minutes or less as the average length of a track when they calculate number of songs. Nice way to cheat people, making it appear like the player can hold more songs than it probably will in real life. As an example, one of the music software applications I use currently holds 45,6 hours of music, which is 725 tracks. That means an average of 3,8 minutes per song, which is probably lower than the average as I have a lot of tracks that are shorter than normal. Depending on what artists you listen to, your average might be 3 minutes or it might be 6 minutes- no-one but you can know. This, combined with the fact that bitrate might vary a lot between files, makes it hard to give a straight number for how many songs a player can hold. The easiest is to just see how big your music collection is and then find a player that can hold it, correcting for the 1024/1000 issue by multiplying the player capacity by 0,931. However, many people who find themselves wondering about the whole “how many songs”-thing might be moving to MP3 players for the first time, and so all their music is on CDs. Normal CDs can hold up to 80 minutes of music (though few hold the maximum), so the number of CDs a player can hold is the absolute maximum, but not that realistic as the number will most likely be considerably higher.
The chart below shows various play capacities and how many songs, hours, minutes and CDs they can hold at various bitrates. Notice the major difference between 192kbps and 320kbps; that difference will cost you nothing in quality if you move from 320kbps CBR to 192kbps VBR. Note that moving upwards (like converting a 128kbps to 320kbps) won’t accomplish anything other than using more space- once the info is gone, compressed to a low bitrate, it’s not coming back.
In conclusionThere are a lot of things that end up deciding the number of songs an MP3 player can hold, simply because “number of songs” isn’t a unit of measurement that has any meaning in the digital world. Manufacturers and stores list somewhat random numbers that doesn’t mean much to people because explaining it all would take as much time as this article has taken you to read, and it might still not make much sense to some people. It is however important to understand the concepts behind the capacity of an MP3 player both to not be fooled by listed numbers and also to find the capacity you need. This article doesn’t even touch on video, which is a chapter by itself in the book of capacity, but the same concept with bitrates apply- though bitrate is more hidden in the world of video. Hopefully these charts and this explanation will give some indication of what’s awaiting you when you buy a new player, but remember: there is no sensible unit of measurement for audio capacity.
"But they are low quality," he says. "You can put on higher- quality audio, but it takes up more room."
The high school student listens to music through headphones when he's mowing the lawns, water blasting or doing other jobs around the family home. He also has it on quietly when he's reading and trying to go to sleep at night. "It's kind of like a background track to life."
Sam doesn't use the radio part of his player because reception is often crackly. He also finds the touch screen a tad too small and awkward to use. If money were no object, he'd opt for an iPod Touch, "something with more memory".
The sportsman: Thomas Lindup is an ultra-distance bike rider who thrashes his iRiver T60 (4GB). Thomas, who won the world under-25 solo 24 Hours of Adrenalin mountain biking title in Alberta, Canada, in 2008, has about 150 songs and a collection of two-hour DJ mixes on his player. He listens to these beat-based sounds during training rides that last eight or nine hours and has even used his iRiver while racing for up to 18 hours. But not at the worlds in Canada - MP3 players are banned in races there.
"There's a really good reason why: it's so you can hear the bears coming."
His requirements for an MP3 player are quite specific. He needs a pocket-sized gadget that is hardy, can handle a bit of damp, has a decent amount of memory and is powered by double or triple-A batteries that can be easily changed on the bike.
"Mostly what I look for is a flash drive. I don't want a hard drive, because they are more unreliable and, because I use them on the bike, they get knocked around a lot."
He's been quite happy with his iRiver, a triangular cylinder he keeps in a plastic zip-lock bag to keep the moisture out. Next time round, he wants a Cowon iAudio MP3 with 16GB of memory.
"It's got better sound quality."
The twentysomething: Narelle Hannam has an older- style iPod Shuffle on which she's stored about 120 songs. The 2GB gizmo holds music that helps motivate her while exercising.
"I use it for walking or at the gym. I also put it into the CD player at home."
Next time round, she'd like an iPod Nano that shoots video, which she just may upload on Facebook. The Nano also has great FM radio reception.
MagnumMac salesman Paul Glucina says the latest version of iPod Shuffle comes with a voice- over feature, which introduces the next track. The 2GB version holds up to 500 songs and the 4GB holds double that. "A lot of runners and joggers go for these."
These bright-coloured players are about the size of a standard eraser, come with headphones and can clip on to your clothing.
The music man: The Most FM manager and programmer Dave Haskell has just unearthed his MP3 player. "I'm holding one in my hand right now," he says of his Philips Wearable Digital Audio 128MB player. He says this one dangles from a lanyard, which holds the controls. The problem with this wee player is memory; it can only hold a couple of albums' worth of music.
"That's why I haven't used it for a few years. But this was top of the line when it came out seven years ago."
Philips has moved on. Its GoGear range includes the 16GB Muse, which can store thousands of songs and play video. However, Dave does put the need for storage into perspective, explaining that an average radio station, like New Plymouth's The Most FM, would have about 2500 songs on its playlist.
Dave recognises he might need a player that holds a few more songs.
"The [Wearable Digital Audio] was good in its day, but now I'm way behind the times. But I'm OK with it.
"The irony is, I met a guy today who had his car stolen and it had his MP3 player in it. He was devastated - that's why he came to see us, with the hope we'd help him rebuild his library."
The man had lost his entire music collection in one fell swoop.
Dave says that if he does decide to upgrade, he'd like an MP3 player able to hold at least 7000 songs that has a screen which shows the album covers and can be operated by touching the screen.
He has just described an iPod Touch, which comes with 8, 32 and 64GB worth of memory.
Phillip Malcolm, branch manager of New Plymouth's MagnumMac, says the 64GB version can hold 14,000 songs or 80 hours of video. He says the beauty of the Touch is the almost endless number of applications available. This means owners can use their iPod Touch to play games, look up maps, check the weather in Timbuktu or Timaru, help navigate, do quizzes and even write music. It has Wi-Fi, which means that in places where there's free wireless internet, people can use their iPod Touch to check emails, surf the web and even go on Skype.
"It works with headsets," Phillip says. "But if it's storage you want, the iPod Classic is the best choice. You can have your whole music collection on there."
The 160GB player holds up to 40,000 songs or 200 hours of video or 25,000 photos, or any combination of the three.
The 50-something woman: Marina Johnston uses her Samsung 2GB player purely for walking inspiration.
"My son has downloaded some music for me and when I'm walking, I use it just to make it more interesting. It's just relaxing - you feel you can forget about things."
She's quite happy with what she's got.
The talking book man: You might see Simon Pickford pushing a trolley around Pak'N Save in the middle of the night. He won't be in a hurry because he'll be lost in a good book. The Apple evangelist has an iPod Touch loaded with lyrics and literature.
"I listen to an awful lot of audio books when I'm at the supermarket or on my 4km walking circuit."
Right now he's hooked on Stephen King's epic The Stand.
He has wireless broadband at home and often uses his MP3 player to surf the web.
"I have a rather nasty habit of wanting to browse the BBC website while in the bathroom, for example."
When the Pickford family plans to go on a road trip, he downloads children's books on to the slim-line gadget, which simply plugs into the car stereo. Naturally, it's also got loads of music.
While iPods seem to be the preferred brand of MP3 player, there are more out there. Dick Smith Electronics has its own range, from 2GB through to a 16GB model.
Other brands include Philips, Sony, Samsung, Transonic, Creative Zen, Thomson and iRiver. You can pay anywhere from $35 or so to $700. Most players also act as voice recorders, have radio reception (though it's not always reliable) and some, like the Sony Wearable Walkman and iPod Nano, double as pedometers.
The only thing they don't appear to do is act as digital cameras - but I'm certain there will be something out there, if not now, then next week.
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I use Zune earphones with my iPod. Strange, I know, but they sound good.
The back of my new iPod Touch
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