Car audio battery is a kinetik 800 model. there isn't a performance alternator for my car. i have a directed amp 1200 going to two 12in mtx 5500 series in a slegde hammer box.
You really do.
Unless both batteries are identical, one will pull the other one down.
You need a high amp relay like stinger's sr-80 or sr-200 depending on the current your system. With 1200 watts the sr-80 should work fine.
I have an '03 Acura TL Type-S with a JL Audio 13W7, JL 1000/1, and a Jensen VM9312 running off of a standard/basic battery up front. If not the car audio specific battery shouldn't just a yellow top or red top do it?
A cap is only good so far as the audio system isn't trying to pull too much from the electrical system. A cap doesn't provide more power, it's designed to 'stiffen' the voltage to the amp, nothing esle. If the current isn't there, a cap won't help.
If your total system power is 1000 watts RMS or more, you will need to:
1. Upgrade the alternator to a high output alternator
2. Upgrade to a heavy duty deep cycle battery
3. Upgrade the "Big 3" - that is to replace the power wire between the battery and alternator, the ground from the battery to the chassis and the ground strap from the engine/tranny to the chassis with at least 1/0 AWG wire.
Failure to do this will result in you replacing them anyway as the alternator will eventually fail.
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i have 2 kicker l5 powered by a kicker 750.1 amp and my lights dim really bad and i was wondering what i should do about it? a car audio battery or a new alternator mayb a high out put one and how much would one of those cost hit me back playas
The new battery would just worsen the problem due to the fact that the alternator powers everything in the car and the battery, which the alternator recharges when the voltage gets low, is a back-up providing power for anything above the amperage that the alternator cannot create. Having a second battery would just worsen the strain on the alternator, being that it would have to charge 2 batteries, thus making the problem worse. Bottom line a new alternator would be the way to go.
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viet is wrong, a capacitor is nothing more than a small battery that will only cause more strain to your alternator, the alternator has to charge the capacitor. which in turn will casue even more strain on it
Do you run it from the car battery to the amps or directly to the amps? Also how to you wire it, if running from the car battery
i wouldnt get an extra battery i would just get one really good battery like a 1900-2200 amp battery for your car audio because 2 batteries is harder on the alternator but how you would do it is
1.get 2 thick gauge wires and hook one up from the + of your normal battery to the + of your audio battery and the other one the - of your normal battery to the - of your audio battery.
2.hook your amp straight up to your audio battery and hook everything else up how you normally would.
but like i said its not a very good idea for the alternator
but hope i helped
Not a whole lot , unless you planning on running the audio system with the car off.
The battery acts a storage for electical power when the car is off, but the power comes from the alternator when the car is running. A better better will definalty help to a degree by supplying a constant 12V because the Lithium batteries keep a constant voltage longer with a sharp drop off when the battries die, and not a constant voltage drop like lead acid, but if the alternator can not handle the load, it wont make up for the voltage defiancy, the biggest thing you can do is make sure you have a high out put alternatior, install a capaciator to absorb the shock of the electical system, thus supplying a constant voltage to the amp.
I'm adding alot of stuff to my car audio system and i have to get a second battery. but regular car batteries seem to be cheaper than car stereo batteries.
An auxiliary battery is a good idea.
You certainly can do this with a regular battery but you will need a diode isolator or similiar device to simultaneously charge both batteries from the alternator while keeping the two 12v power circuits separate from each other. Something like this will do the job - http://www.derek.com.au/dualbattery.html
Good luck with the project.
Sound Man
When i had my 74 Nova i had a few amps that i wired directly to the fuse box. The only ones i see today for sale have to go thru the firewall and get connected to the car battery. I rather order it online then buying them at a flea market where ive seen them new but i rather not purchase it that way. Thanks for any leads....
No. All the modern audio amps are connected to the car battery. I don't believe that there is anyother way to accomplish this.
If so how long would it last if it was powering 2 decient sized speakers? I dont know the battery power capacity so could you give an approxemate answer.
I mean running the amplifier without a car at all
Yes but the length of time it would work would depend on the condition and the size of the batteries. A decent car battery fully charged should power the amp for several hours although trial and error is the best way of finding out. Be sure to connect + & - terminal the right way round and have an inline fuse. To lengthen the time of operation connect two car batteries in parrallel (not series if you can remember your school physics lesson) if unsure don't try it as it will provide 24 volt output and could damage your amplifier.
whats the best battery to have for a car audio. Ill be running over 2000 watts
If your total system power is a 1000 watts RMS or more you will need to:
1. Upgrade the alternator to a high output alternator
2. Upgrade to a heavy duty deep cycle battery
3. Upgrade the "Big 3" - that is to replace the power wire between the battery and alternator, the ground from the battery to the chassis and the ground strap from the engine/tranny to the chassis with at least 2 AWG wire.
Failure to do this will result in you replacing them anyway as the alternator will eventually fail.
A cap is only good so far as the audio system isn't trying to pull too much from the electrical system. A cap doesn't provide more power, it's designed to 'stiffen' the voltage to the amp, nothing esle. If the current isn't there, a cap won't help.
A second battery is never a good idea as it's just an added strain on the alternator unless you plan on running the system with the engine off.
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i have a kinetik power cell battery. it keeps getting discharged. i would like to know why? since its a power cell battery. brand new. i keep charging it with my car battery but still. please tell me thanks
A dead cell can cause that.
A second battery is never a good idea as it's an added strain on the alternator to charge two batteries AND supply power for the car. The ONLY time a second battery is useful is if the audio system is to be used with the car off.
If your total system power is 1000 watts RMS or more, you will need to:
1. Upgrade the alternator to a high output alternator
2. Upgrade to a heavy duty deep cycle battery
3. Upgrade the "Big 3" - that is to replace the power wire between the battery and alternator, the ground from the battery to the chassis and the ground strap from the engine/tranny to the chassis with at least 1/0 AWG wire.
Failure to do this will result in you replacing them anyway as the alternator will eventually fail.
Here is a guide that will calculate what size alternator and power wires you need http://www.datafilehost.com/download.php?file=6d26c621
You'll need Microsft Excel to use it.
See my site for more info http://spkrbox1.spaces.live.com
Eight inserts are packed with the unit to ensure a smooth fit with all the latest iPhone and iPod models, including the new iPhone 3GS and iPod touch.
Also in the dock's box are a component AV cable, mini HDMI cable and a USB AC adaptor, which allows an iPhone or iPod to be charged from the dock, as well as be synchronized with a computer.
When designing the new entertainment dock, Dexim was sensitive to the current economic climate, according to General Manager Laconia Cheng.
"Right now the economy is bad, so we consider price acceptance and try to offer a reasonable price," she told MacNewsWorld.
Eight Hours Talk TimeThe compact battery extender, DCA132 P-Flip ($59.99), provides supplementary battery power for an iPhone or iPod touch. With the gadget's 2000 mAh lithium polymer battery, talk time can be stretched to eight hours, video viewing or game playing expanded to 15 hours, and music listening prolonged to 80 hours.
Small enough to fit in a pocket, the device can be flipped either horizontally or vertically to meet content demands or physical exigencies. A video is better seen in landscape mode, for example, while portrait mode is better for conserving space.
The P-Flip includes a USB cable for recharging its battery and synchronizing i-gizmos through it.
Although Dexim earlier did an OEM version of a battery pack for another accessory maker, it revamped the product for its own brand, Cheng explained. "We wanted the product to synchronize the iPhone, as well as charge it," she said.
In addition, the company increased the juice in the package so it can charge the iPhone 1.5 times before the P-Flip needs recharging.
The unit also better protects the iPhone's connection socket. "Once that socket is damaged, the iPhone can't be charged anymore," she explained.
Lucrative MarketThe accessory market for the iPhone and iPod is very good, according to Cheng.
"The market for the AV docking station is quite big," she observed. "A lot of people want to download video and watch it on their TVs."
However, power products for the iPhone is an even bigger market "because it's so easy to burn power with the iPhone," Cheng contended.
The overall accessory market for mobile phones will follow the growth curve of the handset market over the next five years, according to ABI Research , which expects growth of about 4 percent a year.
"It's not going to explode out of the market," ABI Mobile Devices Analyst Michael Morgan told MacNewsWorld.
Nevertheless, Morgan is confident that the iPhone accessories market will do better than the market as a whole. "I'd bet my bottom dollar that it will," he declared.
"The accessory market is very closely tied to the handset market, so iPhone accessories will be closely tied to iPhones. It doesn't take a wizard to tell you how the sales
of the iPhone are going to be going," he said.
"It's not just the new models," continued Morgan. "Apple is expanding into new countries and expanding its global reach, increasing the mass for accessories."
The Steorn website invites people to come view
the demo in person. Admission is free.
For those not able to travel there in person, a live stream is available from the Steorn website ;
and the public is allowed in to view the device in operation during the hours
the centre is open. A webcam will be live 24/7 through the duration of the
demonstration, which is scheduled to run from December 15-23, 2009, then from
January 5-31, 2010.
According to Steorn, the motor will run for the entire duration without the battery
being replaced -- something that would never happen under normal circumstances,
hence demonstrating that the device is somehow keeping the battery charged --
the very battery that is running the device. The only caveat on that claim
is that because this is a prototype, it is prone to mechanical or other
failures, and parts may need to be replaced during the demonstration.
Perpetual Motion?
Normally this would be called "perpetual motion," but I don't think of
it in those terms. The way I see it is that if this is indeed a legitimate
system, then it is somehow harnessing energy from the environment -- some kind
of unseen electromagnetic force that is free for the taking.
Scientists around the world will be scratching their heads about this demonstration by Steorn, to come up with an explanation of how this could be happening. It may in time change the physics books; but more importantly, it may change the public mindset that for too long has been closed to such possibilities, even though garage tinkerers and serious inventors have been coming up with stuff like this essentially since Nikola Tesla.
Live Feeds
Here is the feed from one of their live cameras:
The second component is a generator with pick-up coils for generating
electricity as the magnets pass by the electromagnets around the periphery,
converting the kinetic energy from the rotation of the motor into electrical
energy to feed back into the battery with a simple rectification circuit.
From a systemic point of view, the motor is producing rotational energy,
electrical energy, and heat as the net products. Hence, McCarthy states
that
the overall production of energy is in a 3:1 ratio. Three units of energy
produced for every one unit put in.
History
For many years Steorn has developed technology to help combat counterfeiting and
fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries.
In 2003 Steorn undertook a project to develop more efficient micro generators. Early into this project the company developed certain generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient. Further investigation and development has led to the company's all-magnet motor technology which allegedly produces free energy. ( Ref .) The technology is patent pending.
On July 4, 2007, Steorn ran a widely publicized demo of their free energy prototype at the Kinetica Museum in London, promised to be streamed live around the world; but it opened with the device not working, spurring much skepticism. ( Ref .)
On Feb. 4, 2009, they lifted the curtain once again, this time soliciting teams of engineers and commercial interests to become part of a developer group who will take a working principle and build embodiments which can then be implemented through license. ( Ref .)
On June 21, 2009, the Jury selected in 2006 to review the Steorn technology issued the verdict reached by the end of 2008, namely that the technology does not result in energy gain. Notwithstanding the experts' negative conclusion, Steorn remained optimistic that they would have a production model ready by the end of 2009. ( Ref .)
On Sept. 27, we reported that the company plans to demonstrate their technology via live video by the end of 2009. This demonstration in Dublin is the apparent fulfillment of that expectation.
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Comments Feel free to view/post comments at our Examiner.com version of this story. Motor StoppedOn Dec. 15, 2009; 6:35 pm Mountain time, Sterling wrote:
I just noticed that the Steorn demo is not spinning, Live Stream, View 1, with ~400+ viewers watching. http://www.steorn.com/
I've had it in view for most of the day on one of my two computer monitors.
Jim Dunn said earlier today that there had been a couple of times when the device had to be stopped and fiddled with.
I'm surprised that Steorn didn't have meters (current, voltage, rpm) shown and have a better way to show a net energy gain.
The predominant scientific criticism of this demo has been that "a D-cell battery could power something like that for days".
The demo as presented doesn't seem to be convincing very many people of anything, especially with any
interruptions of the rotation in so short a time.
Also, there needs to be a collective forum for those who are watching on to be able to log what they see. Otherwise how are we to know what happened during those times we are not watching? I'm seeing the thing stopped presently, but I didn't see the earlier times Jim mentioned.
If some external load were being carried, which could not be accounted for by the D-cell battery input, then they would have a convincing demo. And the bigger that load, the more rapid would be the conclusion that there is something here. The longer that takes, the less convincing this is.
As it is, with this motor sitting there stopped, it would seem to me that this demo has been another flop, performing as conventional science would predict -- nothing new here. Drat.
I should mention, too, that in the last several hours (the place is closed, I presume, for the night), someone has been coming in and taking measurements about every 15-30 minutes. I would be curious to see a graph of the rotation speed and other data that has been collected from this demo.
Resumed Out of View
p.s. After writing the above and sending it out via email ,
the Live Stream View 1 went to black. That's not good integrity. At
7:22 pm Mountain, it went to "Offline". Live Stream View 2 is
still going, but rotation is imperceptible in that view. At 7:26 pm, it is
live again, and rotating again. What was done to get it rotating was not
seen on live webcam. Rotation appears much faster than before the above
incident. The speed had been getting quite slow. I could see the
reddish portions on the rotor passing by individually, and could have easily
manually counted them. Now they are a blur, spinning so fast.
Motor Stopped
On Dec. 17, Robert B. wrote:
I have been watching the Steorn live web cam feeds of their demo. At about 6:30 pm Thursday (Sydney Australia) I noticed that the motor
appeared to have stopped having been moving in a stop start motion for a while. Shortly afterwards all 3 of the web cams went offline or black.
As I type this 8 minutes later, views 1 and 2 are black and view 3 is offline.
This demo doesn't seem to be running as smoothly as they hoped. I realize that what they are doing is not easy but I would have thought that the way to do it is to have it running privately for at least a month continuously before making it live.
I really hope their technology works out but at the moment it is looking a bit
shaky.
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Need Close-up, High Quality Video for RPM AnalysisOn Dec. 16, an associate wrote:
Last night I tried to put a setup to record any variation of speed during the night...
But the streaming is really bad quality...
And this morning, the raw data that I obtained are very difficult to analyze ... probably impossible ...
I'll try another method during the next few hours ...
but I just noticed that even streaming it self seem to lag from time to time ... so the video is choppy
(my software reacts badly and misinterprets data... with this kind of "not constant" frame rate.)
This approach (bad streaming, no zoom, no distinctive dark mark on the rotor, no video high quality for 1h to 3h to
analyze .... etc) does not help his words...
If you find a way to get your hands on a video of just a few hours... in close and good quality ... if only;)
Please keep me informed.
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Not a Typical Pulse MotorOn Dec. 15, 2009, CLaNZeR wrote:
At first glance, to most people this may seem like a normal pulse motor. But it is not and uses Steorn's Orbo config. That's all I can really say on this because of the NDA; but if people join Steorns SKDB they will find out and see for themselves. I would say it is unique and [has] not been seen in other designs published over the years.
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Why Not Capacitor and Meters?On Dec. 15, 2009, Jim Dunn wrote:
Sean – Congratulations on the New Demo. Hopefully this encourages others to come forth with their similar devices beginning the Free Energy (and O/U) Era.
A quick suggestion – Why not use a small ultracap instead of a battery and show the voltage changes on a scope, and true ‘looping’?
That would be much more believable, and truly show the Energy IN vs. Out ratios. You could pick a value of Capacitor like .1- 1.0F that is truly self sustaining, with little losses, whereas batteries have a relatively bad turnaround ratio (80%). You might even have a gradual increase in voltage, over time, which would be very impressive, and convincing!
Otherwise this appears to be just another Bedini motor, which we have all built and played with.
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Copying Bedini Systems Again
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The result is a tiny wind generator that is able to charge up a 12-volt battery, or in this case, two 6-volt batteries. This is simple enough that pretty
Battery-powered; I actually connected the antenna lead into the rabbit ear thing and it works all right; lol.
Battery-powered; I actually connected the antenna lead into the rabbit ear thing and it works all right; lol.
Battery-powered; I actually connected the antenna lead into the rabbit ear thing and it works all right; lol. The rabbit ear is broke off and I put the antenna lead into the hole.
